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			<title>Krone, wer bezahlt die Lücken! (Antwort)</title>
			<category>Schauungen &amp; Prophezeiungen</category>			<dc:creator>HJH</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N´abend Franz L. und BB,</p>
<p>weder Hugin noch Munin werden jemals auf deutschen Boden noch scheißen wollen!<br />
Solcher Aderlass in Erkenntnis deutete auf Kapitulation, auf Verat hin.</p>
<p>Sind sie es doch, die ausgesandten Greife, die Kindheit der grauen Stare hinweg erblinden, spähend der gefärbten Scheitelträger immerhin, wenn auch selten, zum Fluge bereit ihrer Flügelspanne. Noch. Gestutzt. Einst, um zu melden den flüchtigen Gasen des Verstoßes, aus Nasen, die gerümpft nur waren, Riechkraft verloren!</p>
<p>Es wird keine Kaiserkrone geben!</p>
<p>Gruß<br />
HJörgH</p>
<blockquote><p><br />
Was wäre es, wenn ein Rabe auf ne Kaiserkrone ka**t? <img class="smiley" src="https://weltenwende.forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt=";-)" title="zwinkern" /> </p>
<p>Gruß franz_liszt</p>
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			<title>Spezialwasser (Antwort)</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo BB,</p>
<p>vielleicht war ja rechtsdrehendes Wasser im Hudson-River,<br />
das positiv gewirkt hat, ha ha...</p>
<p>Gruß<br />
Mirans</p>
<blockquote><p>Weisst, Franz!</p>
<p>Wenn sich Jemand aus dem <em>Hudson-river</em><br />
(weil dort ein Flugzeug notgelandet ist)<br />
<strong>&quot;Jewish&quot;</strong> erbastelt, dann setzt es bei mir<br />
eben leider doch aus. <img class="smiley" src="https://weltenwende.forum/images/smilies/crying.gif" alt=":crying:" title="weinen" /> </p>
<p>Gruss,<br />
BB</p>
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			<title>Naive Kunst (Antwort)</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weisst, Franz!</p>
<p>Wenn sich Jemand aus dem <em>Hudson-river</em><br />
(weil dort ein Flugzeug notgelandet ist)<br />
<strong>&quot;Jewish&quot;</strong> erbastelt, dann setzt es bei mir<br />
eben leider doch aus. <img class="smiley" src="https://weltenwende.forum/images/smilies/crying.gif" alt=":crying:" title="weinen" /> </p>
<p>Gruss,<br />
BB</p>
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			<title>Symbole (Antwort)</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo BB,</p>
<p>Symbole sind so unsinnig wie z.B. Astrologie, Archetypen oder Beziehungen zu früheren Leben. Ihr natürliches Auftreten auszuschließen ist heikel, wenn man so etwas unmögliches wie Schauungen der Zukunft für möglich hält.</p>
<p>Obamas Mutter war übrigens mit Cheney und Truman weitläufig verwandt <img class="smiley" src="https://weltenwende.forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif" alt=":-P" title="Zunge raus" /><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham</a><br />
Und Truman war Großmeister und sein Großvater hieß Solomon.</p>
<p>Was wäre es, wenn ein Rabe auf ne Kaiserkrone ka**t? <img class="smiley" src="https://weltenwende.forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt=";-)" title="zwinkern" /> </p>
<p>Gruß franz_liszt</p>
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			<title>Und der Text ist nicht von mir. (Antwort)</title>
			<category>Schauungen &amp; Prophezeiungen</category>			<dc:creator>BBouvier</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&lt;&quot;Und der Text ist nicht von mir.&quot;?</em></p>
<p>Grüss Dich, Franz!</p>
<p>Weisst, - das ganze Netz ist doch voll von<br />
schwachsinnigen Texten.<br />
So etwas finde ich leicht auch ganz alleine.<br />
Insofern ist es wirklich nicht nötig,<br />
dass Du Dir die Mühe machst, uns Unsinn<br />
in unser Forum zu stellen.</p>
<p>Gruss,<br />
BB</p>
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			<title>ungenau, aber zeitnah (Antwort)</title>
			<category>Schauungen &amp; Prophezeiungen</category>			<dc:creator>Franz Liszt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gestern hab ich die Schau jemandem gezeigt, der dann sagte: &quot;Ist doch leicht in NY, da passiert doch immer was&quot;. Meine Antwort: &quot;Wieviel Wasserungen gab es überhaupt letztes Jahr?&quot;</p>
<p>Also wieviele Vorhersagen zu Abstürzen kennt ihr?</p>
<p>Von hier:<br />
<a href="http://prophecies.us/">http://prophecies.us/</a></p>
<p> Plane Crash premonition</p>
<p>Written by underwaterstar Monday, <strong>12 January 2009</strong> 11:36<br />
Hello all,</p>
<p>For some reason plane crash premonitions come to me more than any other type....</p>
<p>This morning in a waking/dream state I saw a 747 going down and heard a voice say &quot;There are no angels on that plane&quot;</p>
<p>It made me think that no one riding on the plane was in touch with their spiritual guides or guardian angels, so there was nothing to help them when something went wrong...</p>
<p>I heard Chicago to Newark (don&#039;t know where Newark is, will look up)</p>
<p>I pray for any plane in danger to be safely guided to the ground.</p>
<p>Thanks for listening,</p>
<p>Underwaterstar</p>
<p>Gruß franz_liszt</p>
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			<title>Schauung Dezember (Antwort)</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Von hier:<br />
<a href="http://prophecies.us/">http://prophecies.us/</a></p>
<blockquote><p><strong> Another plane crash...</strong></p>
<p><strong>Written by Cat Wednesday, 24 December 2008</strong> 10:18<br />
This is my second plane-crashing dream in less than a month.  I&#039;m not sure why I keep having dreams about planes crashing.  I&#039;m not afraid of flying, I have no upcoming trips, and I can&#039;t think of any other flying-related thing that might cause me anxiety.  All I know is I keep having these dreams!</p>
<p>In this dream, I was actually on the plane this time and the plane had a normal takeoff; <strong>right after takeoff</strong>, though, the underside or <strong>belly of the plane slammed into a bridge</strong>.  The pilot then lost control and <strong>crashed down between the water and the piers</strong>.  I do not remember anything past that.</p>
<p>PLEASE be careful flying!</p>
</blockquote><p><strong>- der Doppelvogelschlag geschah kurz nach dem Abheben<br />
- <span style="color:#c00;">das Flugzeug verfehlte die Seile der George-Washington-Brücke um wenige 100 m</span><br />
- das Flugzeug verlor seine Triebwerke an der Unterseite<br />
- man kann die Piers vom Unglücksort aus gut sehen<br />
- es knallte auf Wasser und dümpelt nun an den Piers<br />
</strong><br />
Vielleicht sogar ein Beleg, dass die Zukunft nicht feststeht? (Brücke)</p>
<p>Gruß franz_liszt</p>
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			<title>geht gut, danke (Antwort)</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB,</p>
<p>die Verkleidung ist nur halb gelungen - rein genetisch. Vermutlich stehen hier auch mehr &quot;Familien&quot;, sowohl wörtlich, als auch sozial, im Vordergrund. - Und der Text ist nicht von mir.</p>
<p>Gruß franz_liszt</p>
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			<title>gehts noch? (Antwort)</title>
			<category>Schauungen &amp; Prophezeiungen</category>			<dc:creator>BBouvier</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vergessen in der Zusammenfassung hast Du, <br />
dass Obama in Wiklichkeit ein Jude ist,<br />
der sich nur als Neger verkleidet hat:<br />
=&gt;<br />
<em>&quot;Obama is of one of those bloodline factions, <br />
most likely the Tribe Of Judah.&quot; </em></p>
<p>Gruss,<br />
BB</p>
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			<title>Symbole - nicht von Menschenhand (Antwort)</title>
			<category>Schauungen &amp; Prophezeiungen</category>			<dc:creator>Franz Liszt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo,</p>
<p>hab dies hier bei GLP gefunden. Der Symbolgehalt scheint mir diesmal so &quot;dicht&quot; zu sein, dass die Lektüre sich lohnt.</p>
<p>Bin mal gespannt, ob es jemandem gelingt, das als Verschwörung hinzustellen <img class="smiley" src="https://weltenwende.forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt=":-D" title="grinsen" /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Acolyte<br />
Beyond The Rubicon<br />
User ID: 308272<br />
1/17/2009 4:09 AM</p>
<p><strong>SOME AMAZING SYMBOLISM IN HUDSON CRASH</strong></p>
<p>[this is from another forum]</p>
<p>:horus:</p>
<p>Well.. here&#039;s what I got so far....</p>
<p>HUD son ... it turns out that HUD is equivalent to JEW!</p>
<p>From the Hebrew word Y-hud-ah or as we say it JUDAH!!</p>
<p>So HUD son is SON OF THE JEWS *or* JEWISH!</p>
<p>Or more specifically all of the HUDSON references in the news lately could be pointing to - <strong>THE TRIBE OF JUDAH</strong>!</p>
<p>From Yhudah we get all the forms - Judah Judaea Jew - Jewish!</p>
<p>Also the symbol for AIR is the upward pointing triangle (crossed ) as air rises. (It is also the symbol for MANY other things that I will be talking about soon)</p>
<p>The symbol for water is the downward pointing triangle as water flows down....</p>
<p>So when <strong>the AIR bus plane dropped out of the sky and landed (merged - slammed) into the WATER</strong> ...</p>
<p>symbolically you had the merging of those two symbols.... and then you come up with this....</p>
<p>So Israel was even encoded into the message as well as (if I had to guess and pick between the two choices of HUD son meanings ...<br />
JEWish or TRIBE of JUDAH - I would go with the later)</p>
<p>so if I am decoding this correctly I take it to possibly mean...</p>
<p>Well... hold on, before that... there&#039;s more....</p>
<p>At first we were told it was a &#039;<strong>FLOCK OF BIRDS</strong>&#039; that took down the plane.</p>
<p>From an alchemical perspective birds are depicted as mediators or <strong>messengers between the heavenly realm and the earthly world</strong>.</p>
<p>and... flight of birds depict the human soul undergoing development.</p>
<p>Later, we read that it was a &#039;DOUBLE BIRD STRIKE&#039; that took the plane down.</p>
<p>I checked to see if that is possibly military code.... but sticking with the alchemy theme that seems to be running throughout this event...</p>
<p>The <strong>Double Headed Eagle</strong> is said to originate in the ancient Sumarian city of Lagash and to have represented the two gods<br />
<strong>Enlil and Ningersu</strong>.</p>
<p>Ningersu was a storm god and Enlil was a war god of the sky... so symbolically a &quot;DOUBLE BIRD STRIKE&quot; could be saying that ...</p>
<p>SKY/STORM (weather) WAR technology was used to bring down this plane!</p>
<p>So what was the message that the BIRDS symbolically delivered from the heavens to the earth?</p>
<p>If I had to foster a guess I would have to add in the last few of the &#039;clues&#039; that were encoded into the event.... the fact that it was a &#039;U.S. AIRWAYS&#039; plane.</p>
<p>We were also told that <strong>the plane almost hit the &#039;GEORGE WASHINGTON&#039; bridge.</strong></p>
<p>So those two coded clues evoke for us thoughts of ...</p>
<p>THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES...</p>
<p>Therefore... it would be my guess that the analysis of this event is that it is a message to us that <strong>OBAMA is one of two things</strong>....</p>
<p>Either he is a HUD son = of the Tribe of JUDAH<br />
OR he is of the other group pointed to when you mix the symbols of the event and get the star of David .... which could be pointing to either The ten tribes of ISRAEL or the ZIONIST fakes who have usurped the symbol and the country of Israel for their own purposes.....</p>
<p>OBAMA must serve one faction or the other.</p>
<p>No matter which side he is on - I feel that this entire event is a coded message to those with eyes to see that one side is challenging the Obama Presidency and plans to do something... very possibly at the inauguration, to stop it!</p>
<p>I mention the inauguration also for a few reasons.... this took place <strong>a few hours before the CURRENT President gave his farewell speech</strong>. As you watched the farewell speech you of course were thinking forward to the next President&#039;s coming in (the inauguration) and you had already in your mind&#039;s memory bank the event on the Hudson earlier in the day a way to blend the symbolic message of the plane crash together with the real time physical event in our minds.</p>
<p>A few more things come into play here for me....</p>
<p>One being that there was such a &quot;MIRACULOUS&quot; outcome to this event.</p>
<p><strong>The passengers standing on the wings of the plane seemed to be &quot;walking on water&quot; and the pilot was depicted as a HERO/SAVIOR</strong>.</p>
<p>This evokes images of Jesus when he helped Peter to walk on water and to the safety of the awaiting boat. (just as the passengers did) so it evokes for us the idea of a KING, <strong>a Hebrew king of the bloodlines of the 12 tribes of Israel or more specifically the &quot;next&quot; Jesus</strong> ... who will, as he did, most likely come from the Line of Judah... like Jesus and King David and King Solomon did</p>
<p>The bloodlines of the original 12 tribes of Israel and possibly many more bloodlines such as the 12 sons in the Arabic line that came from Ishmael and possibly even others, all have elements in them fighting the other factions for ultimate control of the world. The road they plan to travel to get to the throne of the world is to produce a BLOODLINE RULER Heir to the throne.</p>
<p>Obama has certainly been depicted as a SUN GOD figure and many have made the connection that <strong>he is a Horus figure</strong> and that in him, the controllers of the world finally have seated their bloodline sun king the returned/reborn Horus!</p>
<p><br />
So there you have it... events in the Hudson river Yesterday seem to pointing to ongoing war of the different factions to get their guy to the finish line first and to the fact that Obama is of one of those bloodline factions, most likely the Tribe Of Judah and that the other side does NOT want him to succeed.</p>
<p>I believe it is pointing us forward to the other event that we have been forewarned was coming.... when Joe Biden and Colin Powell BOTH warned us that an event ... a &quot;MANUFACTURED&quot; (done on purpose) event was coming in connection with the Obama Presidency that would rock the world and change everything.... AND Powell was even kind enough to tell us the date... he said &quot;right around the 21st or 22nd of January&quot; well folks the 20th is <strong>Inauguration Day</strong>!</p>
</blockquote><p><img src="http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1406607,00.jpg" alt="[image]"  /></p>
<p><img src="http://sharprightturn.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/obama-buyamerican.jpg" alt="[image]"  /></p>
<p>Zusammenfassung:<br />
- HUD (son) gleich Jude, aus dem Wort Judah, als Hinweis auf den Stamm Judah<br />
- AIR (bus) aufrechtes Dreieck für das Element Luft trifft auf das umgekehrte Zeichen für Wasser: Israel<br />
- Vögel alchemistisch Botschafter zwischen Himmel und Erde<br />
- Doppel-Vogel-Schlag als Doppelkopf-Adler Hinweis auf die Sumerischen Götter Enlil und Ningersu<br />
- George-Washington-Brücke knapp verfehlt als Hinweis auf den Präsidenten<br />
- wenige Stunden vor Bushs Abschiedsrede als Hinweis auf die &quot;Verschwörung&quot; von Obama (Scherz <img class="smiley" src="https://weltenwende.forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif" alt=":-P" title="Zunge raus" /> )<br />
- das Wunder des Laufens auf dem Wasser (Bild) und der Held als Hinweis auf Jesus<br />
- aus Obama wird eine Horus-Figur (Symbol)<br />
- der 21. könnte ein Kampf zwischen &quot;den zwei Fraktionen&quot; werden</p>
<p>Gruß franz_liszt</p>
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			<title>Beweis für Schauungen - Airbus NY</title>
			<category>Schauungen &amp; Prophezeiungen</category>			<dc:creator>Franz Liszt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
						<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo,</p>
<p><img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20090115/capt.1584c55b93a64b6fbc7957aa435b93c3.new_york_plane_in_river_ny128.jpg?x=400&amp;y=294&amp;q=85&amp;sig=dF8BC2G4PPtZsUocEAxOMg--" alt="[image]"  /></p>
<p>dieses Ereignis wurde im November beschrieben:</p>
<p>Zitat<br />
venustra<br />
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11/02/08 at 09:54:48</p>
<p>This dream woke me up 2 nights ago...</p>
<p>   I was the observer..</p>
<p> I saw a plane sinking into the water..<strong>the row of windows was just beginning to go under the water.</strong> I remember asking out loud..&quot;Where is this?&#039;  and then I saw the crown of the Statue of Liberty..not the entire statue, just the crown, and part of the face.</p>
<p><a href="http://prophecies.us/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1225641289">venustra Prophecies 11/08</a></p>
<p><em>venustra - 2.11.08<br />
Dieser Traum weckte mich vor 2 Nächten...<br />
Ich war der Beobachter...<br />
Ich sah ein Flugzeug ins Wasser sinken... Die Fensterreihe fing grad an, unter Wasser zu sinken. Ich erinnere mich, dass ich laut fragend rief, &quot;Wo ist das?&quot;, und da sah ich die Krone der Freiheitsstatue, nicht die ganze Statue, nur die Krone, und einen Teil des Gesichts.</em></p>
<p>Beeindruckend das mit den Fensterreihen:<br />
<img src="http://www.n-tv.de/img/1086212_src_path.59rQ.jpg" alt="[image]"  /><br />
<a href="http://www.n-tv.de/1086208.html">http://www.n-tv.de/1086208.html</a></p>
<p><em><strong>Der Rumpf des Flugzeugs ragte etwa zur Hälfte aus dem Wasser</strong>. Auch Teile der Tragflächen waren noch zu sehen.</em></p>
<p>franz_liszt</p>
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