mayas zum dritten (Schauungen & Prophezeiungen)

detlef, Sonntag, 08.11.2009, 14:24 (vor 6032 Tagen) @ detlef (4182 Aufrufe)

je mehr ich mich wieder in die materie einlese, um so deutlicher wird, dass der gute Fulser nicht das rad erfunden hat.
vielmehr scheint er sich schon lange widerlegte argumente aus der vielfalt der correlationsvorschlaege herausgegriffen zu haben.

letzten endes bleibt die seit einem jahrhundert erkannte, und seitdem oft ueberpruefte correlation, die auf dem 21.12.2012 endet wohl der "best bet".

was aus meiner sicht also verbleibt, ist noch der nachweis, dass die mayas (und anderen precolumbianer zu den zyklenwechseln katastrophische zustaende erlebten/erwarten.

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In the academic realm, there has been a continuing debate over two proposed correlations. The first we may call the 584283 correlation - named after the julian day number of its beginning date - and the second we may call the 584285 correlation. The first implies that the first day of the 13-baktun cycle of the Long Count (written 0.0.0.0.0) was August 11th, 3114 B.C.; the second, of course, is two days later.

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Most of the stelae inscriptions in the archeological record contain Long Count dates alongside tzolkin/haab dates. ... What they were looking for became known as "the Ahau equation" or the "correlation constant." This would be the Julian Day number which corresponds to the base date of the Long Count, thereby providing a link with the Gregorian calendar. For the sake of brevity, I will usually refer to this as the "corr #". ... Contributions from other fields of research soon required any proposed correlation constant to accord with several different considerations; ethnohistorical, archeological, and astronomical. The crucial ethnohistorical documents include the survivingMayan books such as the Grolier, Madrid and Dresden Codices, as well as post-conquest writings from the Yucatan. Over the years, corr #'s have ranged from J.D. 394,483 (Bowditch:1910) to 774,083 (Vaillant:1935). This implies a beginning point of the Great Cycle as long ago as 3634 B.C and as recently as 2594 B.C. By 1930, almost a dozen proposals had already been forwarded, when Thompson came up with his 584285 corr #. It was based primarily on three cross-referenced documents from post conquest Yucatan. These were: the Chronicle of Oxcutzcab, the Book of Chilam Balam, and the writings of Bishop Diego de Landa. The Chronicle of Oxcutzcab states that a tun ended on 13 Ahau 8 Xul in the year 1539 (Teeple 1930:101). The book of Chilam Balam places an indigenous calendar next to the Julian one used by the Spaniards, indicating that February 15th, 1544 = 11 Chuen 18 or 19 Zac. Landa's records place July 16th, 1553 across from 12 Kan 2 Pop. (This was later realized to have been off by one day, as Landa neglected to count the leap year day of Feb 29th 1552.)
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Overwhelming support for the precise placement of the Thompson corr # (the GMT) came in the 40' and 50's, when newly discovered calendar counts still being followed among the Quiche, Kekchi and Ixil of Guatemala all supported the 584283. Any suspected break in the Calendar count between the time of the conquest and recent findings is highly unlikely; they all accurately project backward to dates from the Aztec and Yucatec conquest. As far as the surviving counts of Guatemala go to support proposed correlations, they do indeed all support the GMT:584283. But they would also support any correlation that was different from the GMT by a multiple of the 260-day cycle. It turns out the Bowditch (1910), the Vaillant (1935) and the Spinden (1930) are. But the archeological evidence related by Thompson seems to supercede this fact. When the interdisciplinary approach is fully considered, the GMT seems to be the best bet right now. A review of my source material used in this book demonstrates the support for the 584283.


alles von hier:
http://edj.net/mc2012/fap3.html


gruss,detlef


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